Add a special call for cooperation. If the SCAV kills the PMC, reputation loss for him. And if the PMC kills the SCAV, same, reputation loss. If the SCAV is engaged by the boss, he can fire back without losing reputation. If the SCAV is the one firing first, he losses reputation.So I accidentally domed a fellow scav with my shotgun on interchange last night. I swear he looked like a PMC. Sometimes they spawn with a decent helmet and gear, and they look just like a PMC. I should've used VOIP, but I was so sure he was a PMC when I spotted him through the shelves. So when he turned towards me, I didn't hesitate.Just drop him. That full gear is worth the tiny little bit rep loss. In general: Scav karma is meaningless. The little advantage you get from high scav karma is shit compared to all the loot/money you could gain from just killing scavs and looting them. They need to rework scav karma for it to be actually worth it.Just tell your buddy to take the car extracts and it will give him most of the rep back and pmc-scav extracts are usually quite easy on reserve. Go in with a crap kit and wait at the coop extract Shoot in the air late game pop pop pop-pop-pop and wait for someone to show up.2.1K votes, 217 comments. 853K subscribers in the EscapefromTarkov community. The unofficial subreddit for the video game Escape From Tarkov…Does scav XP now count towards your PMC? Question. new player here, I did a scav raid and leveled from 11 to 12 when I returned to the menu. am I missing something or did BSG change how scav XP affects your PMC? 0.What if instead of throwing low tier and high tier kits in the same game there was a "scav mode" and a "pmc mode" The idea being scav kits are practically free and consist of mostly low tier weapons and armor. I personally find the janky and less effective kits to be more fun, and you can use these to buy high tier kits for the pmc mode with ...IMIv2. •. Shoot them in the face (not helmet or back of the head) if they dont have a faceshield or shoot at their legs. Reply. Cadenman15. •. I once went scav to factory killed 2 pmc who had forts and atlyns on with my saiga 12 and then died to a pistoling. Reply.East wing 306 - hospital, third floor. Money, weapons, rare loot. East wing 314 key. East wing 314 - hospital, third floor. Money, rare loot, weapons. These are most of the best keys within Shoreline and their price on the flea market will vary between ₽100k and ₽1,000,000 but within a few successful raids, you will be reimbursed.For the bosses, see Bosses.For the raiders, see Scav Raiders.For the rogues, see Rogues. Scavengers, known by their alias "Scavs", are a faction in Escape from Tarkov. At the onset of active hostilities in the city, in addition to the predictable humanitarian consequences, a special trend is observed that represents a threat for both civilians and armed forces of the conflicting parties. Due ...BASICALLY, the best method to tell Scavs apart from PMCs - vice versa - is to listen to their voice lines. You'll hear the occasional Scav mumble, but as soon as you hear an angry Russian/ American, you either heard a boss or a PMC (depending on your location and map). (Small tip — avoid playing as a Scav as much as possible — identifying ...Alt+left click is the usual for equipping straight to PMC if there's an available slot. Cladderool. • 5 yr. ago. I haven't played for a couple months now, but I don't think this was ever possible. As far as I know you can only move items to your stash after a scav raid. true.I know it sounds kinda unhelpful and stupid but if they look like a soldier, they are PMC. If they just look like some dude, they are a scav. right, but most PMC i encounter as a scav seem to be in outfits that look like civilian clothes. sure, if they're in the white and red jacket or the "life after death" hoodie it's obviously a scav.Otherwise, the big distinguisher is often gear. The majority of the time scavs will still have what they spawned in with, Scav gear and low tier weapons. PMCs will have larger, more bulky gear and larger backpacks, with larger weapons often equipped with suppressors. Within a split second, it may be hard to differentiate between the two, but ...Also new and having a hard time to tell them apart. 2 things help me. Have a map on a second screen with the scav spawns, so if you think you hear/see something in other places than the spawns its most likely a PMC or Player scav. second thing is: PMC never have "silly" clothing. any bright color is usually a PMC: PMC also have camouflaged clothes.6. luncht1me. • 4 yr. ago. Well, a Scav or Player Scav will always have a SPACE in their name, like firstname lastname. A PMC is always one word. Player scavs are scavs and have scav names, so you don't know if it was a player scav unless you kill them and loot them. 4.Scav karma has been in Escape From Tarkvo for a few weeks now and already a lot has changed with the system. Since a lot of the information seems to be all o...Same with boots. SCAVS have random everyday outfits like youd see on ppl just walking around, usually their outfits can be more colourful. pmcs have very distinguishable outfits. just learn them. The pants are usually the biggest difference. If they're wearing the yellow or white/red top it's easy to tell its a scav.I spawned in as Scav and ran to crackhouse to look for morphine injectors, and I thought I saw a player Scav entering crackhouse shortly before me. Outside there was an unlooted PMC player with dogtag and decked out AK and large backpack. I stopped a bit and looted him and proceeded inside, without much caution.Once you've picked your map and selected 'PMC', you'll be loaded into a raid - and here's where the fun begins. This is where you start to learn how to play Escape from Tarkov. From the moment your boots hit the ground, you're free to go where you want and do whatever you desire - but be aware that you're now in a live raid ...scavs usually have shit gear. they don't have helmets .most of the time. you distinguish them by their movement patterns. and they usually scream when they shoot. they usually wear red jackets and ripped pants with sandals. on the other hand, the pmc has a uniform depending on the faction. 2.The location helps weed out a PMC vs a scav. But, generally speaking, scavs are a lot more colorful and skinnier than PMCs. They also yell a lot more. 1. I’m fairly new, and still struggling to easily tell the difference between a player scav and a PMC. There are times when it’s obvious like a fully….PMC disguised as a scav. Hear me out. You put on a PACA, some AK or TOZ or simmilar, hat, scav vest and you don't shoot scavs. Lets say that since you look like a SCAV at first glance they wont agro unless you come reall close 10-15 meters close. Even if it was only on account of darknes maybe from 9PM to 7AM. What do you think.If a Scav hesitates after seeing a PMC, that Scav is definitely a player-controlled Scav. AI Scavs do not hesitate before shooting at a PMC. This isn't the best way to distinguish between a player ...Step 1: Load into a PMC raid, go to the nearest scav spawn and kill a scav. Step 2: Take the entire kit from the scav. Step 3: Extract from the PMC raid. Now, here's the clever bit: Step 4: Load back into another PMC raid with the kit you took from the scav. Step 5: Et walllah! With how annoying getting fence rep is, I really do not want to accidently shoot scavs. But I literally cannot tell the difference at all. If it's a PMC, I die cuz he can shoot anytbing that moves and he's fine but as a scav, I really have to be sure and with a game where you can die within 0.001% of a second, I feel like this isn't well designed. Identifying scavs from PMC players in Tarkov can sometimes be challenging, but there are certain clues and behaviors that can help differentiate between the two. Here are some tips: 1. AI Scavs Will Only Patrol Certain Zones. AI scavs in Tarkov have predefined paths and will only patrol specific areas on the map.Sometimes, other player-scavs are nice enough to click F1 themselves, that way you know it's another player-scav. If you hear somebody charging at you (loud footsteps, intensifying) It's probably a PMC running thowards you to kill you. The F1 (Mumble) button, can be used as a "bait" to kill other PMC's that think it's just a normal …If i earn 2k exp from a scav run then i would love to earn the same on PMC. 2. 4 Share. Sort by: Add a Comment. AdWilling6741. • 8 mo. ago. Just use SVM or a mod called multiply by x you can set whatever number you want as the xp multiplier. 2.Also new and having a hard time to tell them apart. 2 things help me. Have a map on a second screen with the scav spawns, so if you think you hear/see something in other places than the spawns its most likely a PMC or Player scav. second thing is: PMC never have "silly" clothing. any bright color is usually a PMC: PMC also have camouflaged clothes.Use a scav speech line, most player scavs will also do the same in return. And if you're talking to another play on the other side of a wall or something and asking if they are scav for pmc. Tell em to use a scav voice line to prov they are scav. You'll just have to Learn the different voices lines between bear and scavContent marketing has become an essential component of any successful digital marketing strategy. With the right approach, businesses can effectively engage their target audience, ...Otherwise, the big distinguisher is often gear. The majority of the time scavs will still have what they spawned in with, Scav gear and low tier weapons. PMCs will have larger, more bulky gear and larger backpacks, with larger weapons often equipped with suppressors. Within a split second, it may be hard to differentiate between the two, but ...A forum thread where players share their experiences and tips on how to identify player scavs from PMC in the game Escape from Tarkov. The thread contains various opinions, examples and warnings from different players who have played as scavs or PMCs.BaderBlade. •. Scavs wear blue colors and silly headgear, PMC usually wear tactical clothes, big backpacks and some modded assault rifles. Reply reply. xthecerto4. •. Apart from the clothing already pointed out, if someone has a longass giant weapon with Lasers and a scope chances are high it is a pmc. Reply reply.Unlike the PMC Pier Boat extract, this Scav location is a bit safer. The extract itself is inside the building, and the offices on the Pier act as solid cover, as do the other Scavs that spawn ...Most of the time this is probably true. However my buddy and I ran a scav the other day and found a PMC who was stoked about extracting with us. I also think the extract turns green when someone has/is at the coop extract. Not sure it tells you whether it's PMC or Scav waiting though.A rogue in your proximity has recently taken damage. You get too close to their gun mounts. Outside of these scenarios you really can run straight into them, around them and stand in the middle of their patrols if you so please. Keep in mind that other scavs or PMC's can aggro rogues around you on your behalf. It is one million times easier to dress your PMC as a scav and do co OP exfil with a real scav. You might not find a PMC, but you'll always find a player scav. Bringing a red flare to the coop exfil and let a player scav loot it. Then, his bag will be full and he will be ready to exfil with you. I'm still fairly new and don't know how to tell scav from pmc while in match Reply reply more reply More replies More replies More replies More replies More replies. StealthCatUK • Reserve mountain near radar tower. Scavs patrol around the grounds but also CP fence right below is a scav extract. Might be tedious but player scavs do frequent ...As PMC you probably have a less chance of dying to scav players just because of this. I do agree that we players need the same ability as AI scavs to know who to shot and not. I had one situation where i heard gun fire, i ran over there only to see two scavs fighting, i could had helped ether one of them but i did not cause its 50/50 if i lose ...Regular scavs will always leave you alone unless they are within range (or sight) of you shooting another scav/raider/boss this radius is fairly large, so normally expect half the map to shoot you on sight after killing another scav. (They WILL know, they are omniscient) The exception to this, if it was a player scav and he shot at (read HIT ...Maybe i need to see a Pestily video…. Reply. Level_Remote_5957. •. The only real way to increase sav karma reliable is to extract +0.1, and vehicle extract +0.3. As the other way is to kill traitors +0.6 and kill PMC's +0.6 (and considering it's gonna take a second to identify if it's a PMC or scav some times you might get fucked before you ...SCAV ai will not have a pouch slot. SCAV player will have a pouch slot. PMC characters will have a dogtag on their body, there is some customization they can make to their character after a higher level. That's after they are dead. He's asking about when they are still alive. Seriously "some player scav clown who probably can't play the actual game" and then you go and ask to have reduced timer on your SCAV ? like pmc doesn't exist lol. This isn't different than people complaining about people camping a bush, or running meta gear or playing a specific weapon that seem "unfair" and wanting it removed. Scavs act well like Ai. They stand in still in the open, walk very scripted paths. Only spawn in certain locations. They have a distinct look than pmcs (you can view the different clothing options for pmcs in ragman's store) They usually yell at you when you're nearby whereas most players don't. Just spawned in as a scav and some guy comes running straight to me, I had a labs key card on me. Kind of sus. So I instantly just comm that I spawned in and I'd be willing to take scav PMC extract. He says sure, so I pull out my knife- hit the wall for his security which he voiped and also dropped my gun. Just to run by him and get shot in the ...The location helps weed out a PMC vs a scav. But, generally speaking, scavs are a lot more colorful and skinnier than PMCs. They also yell a lot more. 1. I’m fairly new, and still struggling to easily tell the difference between a player scav and a PMC. There are times when it’s obvious like a fully….Yes. You can tell by the name itself. Any names with 2 words is a scav, either player scav or ai, no way to tell here. If it looks like a name that someone created, or its yellow from eod, that's a pmc. Scav bosses have 1 word names like reshala, killa, gluhar,shturman. Raiders will also have 1 word names like tiger, griffon I think, shit like ...If players fall to a Scav Karma level of -1 or below they will be offered a PMC quest to restore it from Fence. Kill a PMC with at least one Scav kill in that raid. +0.02 – +0.03. 0.02 if the PMC has one Scav kill and 0.03 if …As PMC its easy - shoot all that moves (or hide). As Scav ylu have to learn how are scavs looking. AI scav will not shoot you, player scav might. When you play as a scav just shoot no one. Later on you can try to kill some raiders or rogues, but the best way to play early on is to run away and extract with any shit.Alt+left click is the usual for equipping straight to PMC if there's an available slot. Cladderool. • 5 yr. ago. I haven't played for a couple months now, but I don't think this was ever possible. As far as I know you can only move items to your stash after a scav raid. true.If players fall to a Scav Karma level of -1 or below they will be offered a PMC quest to restore it from Fence. Kill a PMC with at least one Scav kill in that raid. +0.02 - +0.03. 0.02 if the PMC has one Scav kill and 0.03 if they have two or more. Help a Scav. +0.01 - +0.02.I know it sounds kinda unhelpful and stupid but if they look like a soldier, they are PMC. If they just look like some dude, they are a scav. right, but most PMC i encounter as a scav seem to be in outfits that look like civilian clothes. sure, if they're in the white and red jacket or the "life after death" hoodie it's obviously a scav.Killing a PMC who's killed at least one Scav. This improves your Scav karma by .02 or .03 if they've killed at least two Scavs. Kill a traitor Scav (one that's harmed other Scav NPCs in any way). This improves your Scav karma by +.03. It doesn't matter how high your Fence Loyalty was. Written by gamers, for gamers.A short guide on how to safely and effectively do scav runs on the factory map in Escape from Tarkov.Map - https://mapgenie.io/tarkov/maps/factorySong - Gene...Next try as a scav there were like 10 of us there and 1 guy killed everyone. Did a pmc and no scavs ever showed. Next scav I spawned goshan and a pmc spammed cease fire. I wiggled he dropped 2 gpus and escorted me to the extract where we found another scav and got out.Beyond that, you can tell from the way they move - the bots are predictable in various ways, like always yelling GRENATA! and running when a grenade is thrown near them. The going prone thing is also a bot move. If they kill you, the one sure way to tell is that player scavs have a report button next to their name, and bots don't. 8.Seriously "some player scav clown who probably can't play the actual game" and then you go and ask to have reduced timer on your SCAV ? like pmc doesn't exist lol. This isn't different than people complaining about people camping a bush, or running meta gear or playing a specific weapon that seem "unfair" and wanting it removed.But beyond appearance, how players act vs how ai act will easily tell you if its a player. If you are scaving watch how ai scavs act to people you see as players because ai know …If you determine that the Scav's spawn loot is expendable, you have two options: 1. Go to the Scav Extract, shoot in the air, and hope a PMC wanders by and is willing to take the extract with you. Or 2. Go around looking for hot spots that are close to the Scav Extracts but have areas of cover.If you killed a player it will say USEC or BEAR killed and below that PMC. SCAV players will most likely be the SCAVs that are higher lvl than 10. In raid you will notice BEARs wear a black shirt, USECs a green camo and matching pants. SCAVs will be wearing "civ" stuff and player SCAVs will have an empty pouch slot.Ps: Use your scav every time it's available, focus solely on extracting with a gun you can use on your pmc. Customs and interchange are good maps for newbie scav runs. Pss: The game is brutally hard until you hit level 10. Pre level 10 don't bother trying to fight pmcs unless they're stood still somewhere and haven't seen you.Sounds made by Scavs. In Escape from Tarkov it is vital to listen to sounds and voices. You can tell by the sound alone if a Scavs is near you or someone from the PMC. For example, Scavs-bot will make a special sound when running - as if someone is dragging their feet. Most players, especially experienced ones, will try to make as little ...Yes. You can tell by the name itself. Any names with 2 words is a scav, either player scav or ai, no way to tell here. If it looks like a name that someone created, or its yellow from eod, that's a pmc. Scav bosses have 1 word names like reshala, killa, gluhar,shturman. Raiders will also have 1 word names like tiger, griffon I think, shit like ... Knee pads and arm bands aren’t found on scavs. Tricked out weapons, big bags and big armor vests are usually indicicative of a PMC. I find most all PMCs will be wearing some type of face covering so if they’re not it’s a pretty good assumption they’re a scav. When in doubt as a scav hit F1 then shoot if no response. 53K views 3 years ago Escape From Tarkov Beginner's Series. ...more. In this episode, we take a look at how to tell Scavs from Players, whether that be AI Scavs, Player Scavs …Use Scavs whenever you can. When you're starting out in Escape from Tarkov, you'll want to use a Scav character as often as possible. Unfortunately, Scavs have a 20-minute cooldown between ...Imagine being upset that you got outplayed by a scav with a ushanka and a 60 durability Toz. Well, there's plenty difference. I for one, have only killed 2 PMCs playing as Scav whereas I have 40 PMC kills otherwise. You spawn with horrible or no armor, rarely get a headset, best ammo I've ever gotten only allowed for penning level 3 armor, and ...Good video, just need the time of each extraction shown in the description of the vid. 1. Samosh_. • 4 yr. ago. Ill add it. 856K subscribers in the EscapefromTarkov community. The unofficial subreddit for the video game Escape From Tarkov developed by BattleState Games.Nov 28, 2019 ... Follow my Twitch! https://www.twitch.tv/operatordrewski Subscribe for more videos :D ▻ https://bit.ly/2QEpFh5 ▻Support my videos on ...Just spawned in as a scav and some guy comes running straight to me, I had a labs key card on me. Kind of sus. So I instantly just comm that I spawned in and I'd be willing to take scav PMC extract. He says sure, so I pull out my knife- hit the wall for his security which he voiped and also dropped my gun. Just to run by him and get shot in the ...East wing 306 - hospital, third floor. Money, weapons, rare loot. East wing 314 key. East wing 314 - hospital, third floor. Money, rare loot, weapons. These are most of the best keys within Shoreline and their price on the flea market will vary between ₽100k and ₽1,000,000 but within a few successful raids, you will be reimbursed.Yes. You can tell by the name itself. Any names with 2 words is a scav, either player scav or ai, no way to tell here. If it looks like a name that someone created, or its yellow from eod, that's a pmc. Scav bosses have 1 word names like reshala, killa, gluhar,shturman. Raiders will also have 1 word names like tiger, griffon I think, shit like ...You can check out the timer by pressing ‘’O’’ once. Pressing ‘’O’’ twice will bring up a list of extraction points. When in a raid, you should press ‘’O’’ periodically to ...Pants and shoes. There's not a whole lot of variation, so most PMCs are running many of the same pants. And shoes. Turn up that gamma and look out for those pants and shoes.. And spam F1 scav mumble to anything that moves.The Ridgid Cordless Palm Impact Screwdriver Kit is small but powerful. What makes it unique is that it works with the pressure you apply when driving in the screw, so it gives you ...Aug 4, 2021 · Sometimes, other player-scavs are nice enough to click F1 themselves, that way you know it's another player-scav. If you hear somebody charging at you (loud footsteps, intensifying) It's probably a PMC running thowards you to kill you. The F1 (Mumble) button, can be used as a "bait" to kill other PMC's that think it's just a normal scav. Forums - Escape from Tarkov ForumScavs act well like Ai. They stand in still in the open, walk very scripted paths. Only spawn in certain locations. They have a distinct look than pmcs (you can view the different clothing options for pmcs in ragman's store) They usually yell at you when you're nearby whereas most players don't.Yes. You can tell by the name itself. Any names with 2 words is a scav, either player scav or ai, no way to tell here. If it looks like a name that someone created, or its yellow from eod, that's a pmc. Scav bosses have 1 word names like reshala, killa, gluhar,shturman. Raiders will also have 1 word names like tiger, griffon I think, shit like ...Forums - Escape from Tarkov Forum Knee pads and arm bands aren’t found on scavs. Tricked out weapons, big bags and big armor vests are usually indicicative of a PMC. I find most all PMCs will be wearing some type of face covering so if they’re not it’s a pretty good assumption they’re a scav. When in doubt as a scav hit F1 then shoot if no response. 100% scav is more profitable. Scav for loot and money, pmc for quests, fun, pvp and the "game". There is so much loot on the map that there is always something somewhere for scavs. Half the pmcs are dead within first 5 minutes of the map starting. The rest of the pmcs can only carry out so much.
5. PMCs Are Always Players, So An AI Will Not Be A PMC. PMC characters are always controlled by players, so if you come across a non-player controlled character, it is likely a scav. 6. Behavior of AI Scavs Compared to Behavior of Human Players.. Kempf's jewelers
This doesnt apply to PMC runs, and if youre doing a scav run who cares, enemy scav AIs are bots, if they kill you you deserve to die, youre also used to attacking everything you see as a PMC. getting max fence rep is redundant, once you get lvl 20 you dont sell poo to fence or buy anything from fence, im not gonna give up a free pilgrim or die ...Yes, playing as a scav does contribute to your level and skill progress. Your scav character is separate from your main PMC character, but the level and skill progress carry over between raids. How do you tell if a scav is a player? There are several ways to tell if a scav is a player. AI scavs will only patrol certain zones, while player scavs ...If you hear a gunshot anywhere on the map, it indicates the presence of either a player PMC or player scav. AI scavs will never have occasion to shoot unless a PMC comes by or a player scav decides to go hostile. It can be hard to pick up on the differences at first, especially when player scavs choose to hide in groups of scavs to ambush PMC.6. luncht1me. • 4 yr. ago. Well, a Scav or Player Scav will always have a SPACE in their name, like firstname lastname. A PMC is always one word. Player scavs are scavs and have scav names, so you don't know if it was a player scav unless you kill them and loot them. 4.Use a scav speech line, most player scavs will also do the same in return. And if you're talking to another play on the other side of a wall or something and asking if they are scav for pmc. Tell em to use a scav voice line to prov they are scav. You'll just have to Learn the different voices lines between bear and scavThere are five PMC extracts on Shoreline in Escape from Tarkov. Shoreline is a sizeable map with many Scav extracts but only a few PMC exits. The map above lists PMC extraction points in blue, and Scav in red. PMCs will always need to head to the edges of the map, while Scavs have the option of extracting in the large complex in the center.Pants and shoes. There's not a whole lot of variation, so most PMCs are running many of the same pants. And shoes. Turn up that gamma and look out for those pants and shoes.. And spam F1 scav mumble to anything that moves.Disguise yourself as Scav. Story. Hi. I found out that playing pmc in disguise is the most fun at the moment. Just wear a ushanka, gssh, aviator glasses, fake mustache, must be a bear player., with Summerfield jacket, and the blue ssv trouser or so. Also a silenced vpo 366. without a stock.Scav AI Wild will shoot you on the spot. The player can hesitate. If a Dick hesitates upon seeing a PMC, that Dick is a Wild, controlled player. AI Scavs are not shy about shooting at PMCs. It's not the best way to tell a player-controlled Wild from an AI-driven Wild, as it requires full disclosure, but it's a method nonetheless.Eh. Scav players should approach PMCs with a knife, and always walk in front of them. Don't trust a scav with a gun. With that being said, I have no problems deceiving pmcs as a scav and vice versa, but my big nono is being dishonest with PMCs. When you backstab a PMC, all you're doing is ruining any chances at cooperation between PMCs.Seems like you just want the quiet raid preset in the F12 menu (make sure you're changing the PMC spawn settings and not the scav settings). If changing those spawn presets disable spawning then it is installed incorrectly. "Quietraids- initial PMCs only" is the setting you wanna use in donuts.6. luncht1me. • 4 yr. ago. Well, a Scav or Player Scav will always have a SPACE in their name, like firstname lastname. A PMC is always one word. Player scavs are scavs and have scav names, so you don't know if it was a player scav unless you kill them and loot them. 4.Also, the russian PMCs (bears) have different voices to the scavs, learn the scav voices so you know if a bear is trying to bullshit you (something that sounds like "DICKY NEEDLES" is ALWAYS a Bear). If you hear "VOLUN SUKA", a scav is ANGRY at you (has noticed you and is gonna shoot). Time to move. Generally the tone of their voice says a lot.Eh. Scav players should approach PMCs with a knife, and always walk in front of them. Don't trust a scav with a gun. With that being said, I have no problems deceiving pmcs as a scav and vice versa, but my big nono is being dishonest with PMCs. When you backstab a PMC, all you're doing is ruining any chances at cooperation between PMCs.There are five PMC extracts on Shoreline in Escape from Tarkov. Shoreline is a sizeable map with many Scav extracts but only a few PMC exits. The map above lists PMC extraction points in blue, and Scav in red. PMCs will always need to head to the edges of the map, while Scavs have the option of extracting in the large complex in the center..
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